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  How can anyone who is truly spiritual-minded attend Bethel and not realize it's all a scam

  by sosoconfused in

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  not that i was any better(lol - but as i sat back and thought about the time i spent there, and the things i saw i feel disgusted.. i could literally write a thousand stories about the discrimination, favortism and all out dishonest that took place but i doubt anyone would actually care.

  the one thing however that really sticks out in my mind is when i was in a nice room with my roommate that he kind of inherited after his previous roommate left.

  it actually had a bathroom and we both had space for real beds(not those dang trundle beds like we had in standish).. .

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  FatFreek 2005

  I just updated the list of former Bethelites, their handles anyway.

  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UfMFMrD-qVAfHrsblwsJlUqfq4QPzqqvt_gF-UtlwVA/pub

  The count is up to 93.

  Len
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  Why "God's Name" Doesn't Mean "J...

  by metatron in

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  witnesses get indoctrinated with scriptures that refer.

  to "the name of my father".

  by means of these texts,.

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  FatFreek 2005

  Toward the end of my 19 year WT presence I listened intently to a certain elder's closing prayer. In our gossip circle he was often talked about in his use of the name Jehovah. In this particular prayer I found myself counting -- 13 times he spouted the name.

  Like Room 215 I never addressed my dad by "Wesley", never even thought about it.

  That's ironic, in a way, since one of my sons, still a JW, has a son whom he named after his grandfather Wesley.

  Not surprising, because of WT's shunning policy, I've never had the pleasure of addressing my grandson by "Wesley".

  Len Miller
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  Tyler McCumber wins PGA tour event in Peru

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  tyler mccumber, no, you probably don't know of him.

  he may be one of jehovah's witnesses.

  his dad, mark, was a member the last i knew.. .

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  FatFreek 2005

  Hi again Room 215,

  Yes, I think I remember that you one time said that 215 was your room number when you were at Bethel. Thanks for your first hand report.

  I had no idea that Mark had two brothers -- and were they at Bethel as well?

  Any how, that family was apparently very deeply entrenched in JW land. I wonder, though, if Mark has faded? No reason, on my part, to think that. Maybe just hopeful thinking.

  

  It's doubtful, however, that Tyler is following his family's legacy with the Borg. Not just the beard (although the September 2016 Watchtower has reportedly relaxed that restriction) but his girl friend traveled with him to Peru to keep him company as she caddied for him. Yes, she could have slept on the couch, but I wouldn't bet the farm on that one.
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  Tyler McCumber wins PGA tour event in Peru

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tyler mccumber, no, you probably don't know of him.

  he may be one of jehovah's witnesses.

  his dad, mark, was a member the last i knew.. .

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  FatFreek 2005

  Tyler McCumber, no, you probably don't know of him. He may be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. His dad, Mark, was a member the last I knew.

  
  

  Tyler won his 4th professional event two days ago in Peru, South America.
  

  His dad, Mark, became truly world class after he left his two-year stint at Bethel.
  

  "After turning 50 in 2001, McCumber played on the Champions Tour from 2001 to 2008, but did not win an event in this venue. He also works as a golf course architect and was occasionally featured as a golf analyst on Fox Sports. McCumber is a member of the American Society of Golf Course Architects."
  

  "Like his faith. McCumber is a devout Jehovah's Witness; he devoted three years to the religion after high school. He spent one year in "full-time ministry, going door-to-door, studying the Bible," in Jacksonville. He also spent two years at the Brooklyn Bethel, the group's headquarters near the Brooklyn Bridge.
  

  "It was like a big college," McCumber said. "There were dorms, we'd do in-depth study of the Bible and we also worked 50 hours a week, helping to print the Watchtower.
  

  "It's a very misunderstood religion," McCumber said. "My parents and grandparents on both sides were raised in that faith and as I investigated it, I felt very strongly about it. I live it. Deep down it permeates every ounce of my being. But I don't praise [God) every time I win; that's not the way I was raised." [1995 interview quotation].
  

  In my youth there was such negativity against sports participation in Watchtower world. Fortunately for Mark, that all must've slid off his back and he took up golf as a career after leaving Bethel.

  I'm some 11 years older than Mark and I don't pretend I would have ever even come close to being world class, but I think it would have been somewhat rewarding if I could have tried to optimize my skills while I was younger.
  

  In my younger years golf was so berated by our JW peers. On one of our 1960s trips back home to New Bedford from Marshalltown I learned that all of my sports memorabilia -- baseballs for each game I pitched when my team won, newspaper articles with box scores, news and photos at local junior golf tourneys I had won -- had been tossed by Mom and Dad. It could have been perceived as "drawing too much attention to self".
  

  There's not a day that goes by without thinking how fortunate I got out of that mess back in 1977.

  Back to Tyler and dad Mark. Good for them

  
  
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  Spy camera wanted, motion activated, wireless, etc.

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  okay, it doesn't have to be a spy camera.. it must be something wireless that send signals to my android smart phone.

  and some of those spy cameras seem to have fairly good features but they are also scary.

  their descriptions are obviously translated from some other language and i would worry about decent customer support.. i'd simply like to be notified the moment a certain cabinet door (actually, two doors) is opened.

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  FatFreek 2005

  Thanks, LV101.
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  Spy camera wanted, motion activated, wireless, etc.

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  okay, it doesn't have to be a spy camera.. it must be something wireless that send signals to my android smart phone.

  and some of those spy cameras seem to have fairly good features but they are also scary.

  their descriptions are obviously translated from some other language and i would worry about decent customer support.. i'd simply like to be notified the moment a certain cabinet door (actually, two doors) is opened.

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  FatFreek 2005

  Thanks, Simon and Baker. Oh, how I wish we lived in a metro cuz I love Fry's.

  Dropcam is very interesting.
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  Spy camera wanted, motion activated, wireless, etc.

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  okay, it doesn't have to be a spy camera.. it must be something wireless that send signals to my android smart phone.

  and some of those spy cameras seem to have fairly good features but they are also scary.

  their descriptions are obviously translated from some other language and i would worry about decent customer support.. i'd simply like to be notified the moment a certain cabinet door (actually, two doors) is opened.

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  FatFreek 2005

  That's a good one, VI. No, it's actually my wife's jewelry chest of drawers. While the 7 or 8 drawers in the front are key lockable, the two side doors are not. Go figure. They are quite shallow cuz they just have hooks for bracelets and necklaces. But there is room for some electronic presence.
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  Spy camera wanted, motion activated, wireless, etc.

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  okay, it doesn't have to be a spy camera.. it must be something wireless that send signals to my android smart phone.

  and some of those spy cameras seem to have fairly good features but they are also scary.

  their descriptions are obviously translated from some other language and i would worry about decent customer support.. i'd simply like to be notified the moment a certain cabinet door (actually, two doors) is opened.

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  FatFreek 2005

  Thank you.
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  Spy camera wanted, motion activated, wireless, etc.

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  okay, it doesn't have to be a spy camera.. it must be something wireless that send signals to my android smart phone.

  and some of those spy cameras seem to have fairly good features but they are also scary.

  their descriptions are obviously translated from some other language and i would worry about decent customer support.. i'd simply like to be notified the moment a certain cabinet door (actually, two doors) is opened.

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  FatFreek 2005

  Hi Stillin,

  And the name of your phone carrier is .... ?
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  Spy camera wanted, motion activated, wireless, etc.

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  okay, it doesn't have to be a spy camera.. it must be something wireless that send signals to my android smart phone.

  and some of those spy cameras seem to have fairly good features but they are also scary.

  their descriptions are obviously translated from some other language and i would worry about decent customer support.. i'd simply like to be notified the moment a certain cabinet door (actually, two doors) is opened.

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  FatFreek 2005

  Ooops! that image is too blurry.